Other top articles related to this topic: Graeme Hay is the owner of GolfingFocus.com. Many golfers save some money and buy the SM8s and others will upgrade from SM7s to SM9s. Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. The fairways where I play are very firm and I get a fair amount of roll. 398 were here. me too! He is committed to having a positive effect on their lives. May I ask how many of them have 120 mph swing. RocketBladez Tour 4-PW // C-Taper But the guys with a great wedge and not great length still hack it on tour because they have what matters. This promotes a lower ball flight and is seen by tour players as being a more accurate shot than having the ball float into the air. I've had the privilege of playing with and watching tour players in person, so I know what they're capable of. As golf instruction and coaching continue to move more towards verifiable data (what the instructor/coach knows) and further away from guess and check (what the instructor/coach thinks), we expect to see more improvement in the golf community. Well I certainly feel hood about how I played when i did. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. I think those numbers are a little high. The numbers posted above are cool to me because you can see Tiger hits balls on the range like he does on the course. How many times do you see TV reporting driving distance on an uphill into the wind hole? Titleist SM5 52-08 & 58-07 S400's Distance to Apex 195.9 PING i210 (4i-UW) DG X100 I cant hide my excitement and love for a Vokey wedge and it doesnt change on these. As he becomes more efficient, the AMA has shorter approach shots which lead to closer proximity to the hole. WebIn 2018, Justin was just the 21st player to ever reach #1 in the Official World Golf Rankings following his WGC win in Memphis. [/quote] why you did not work that out or your friends did not suggest it I dont know. Yet I hit my driver 230 yards to what they say is average, 214. Here are Tiger's averages for this season on shots that were measured: [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] If length was a determing factor for professional status then we'd have the Wedge players tour and not the Long Drivers tour. The SMs have been nurtured and feel just beautiful at impact, the GW is super consistent with full shots and the chip and run. Your link has been automatically embedded. Take Bubba for example who can increase his AoA to 5-6 and hit balls 350 yards in the air when screwing around on the range however on the course he hardly does that. Crazy thing is I hit my 3 wood off the tee about 250 yards. Maybe for one swing he got there. Some of us didn't have the means or access to learn and play a lot of golf when we were Teeball aged. Imagine being on the practice ground with Justin Thomas or Nelly Korda week in week out. What I find funny is the number of people on here that think it's ridiculous that an amateur golfer claims to have similar numbers to a professional. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364353617' post='6703853'] Grip: SuperStroke, Driver: Titleist 917 D3 (10.5 degrees @12) And it just isnt true.well at least not on average. I do agree the AMA should be playing much shorter courses than most presently do. As such, this article will focus on the performance of the average male amateur (AMA). But the guys with a great wedge and not great length still hack it on tour because they have what matters. Foley was talking about him hitting 8-9* down when playing his stinger. TSi2 18, VTS Silver 8xMizuno MP Fli Hi 21, Recoil 110MP-20 MMC 5-P,DG X100SM850F, 54S, 58MPXGCloser Gen 2Tour BX. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. We've enjoyed playing this great game with friends, family and competitors from all over the world for many years. [url="http://www.rotaryswing.com/golf-instruction/golfequipment/golf-launch-monitor.php"]http://www.rotaryswinch-monitor.php[/url] And this is about DJs average big drive when he swings harder, at around 125 mph. Dont think they ever release that stuff. timestamp='1364355784' post='6704107'] [/quote] hard to say for sure who was at fault in the beginning i am 7 handicap play with a friend who is 26-28 i play blue he plays white even when an extra player joins me on the blue he still plays white. Short hitter compared to the average WRXer That means the distance from the center of the green tothe edge averages just under 44 feet. The way forward has to be more tighter averages with the driver maximising my best yardage from the swing speed I have. But i attribute most of that to playing with a best friend who was a scratch golfer and showed me theres no need to take longer than 2 hours to play 18 holes. Have a look at his driver and 6 iron numbers below: Driver 6 The TrackMan Combine data collected from over 10,000 golfers of all levels from around the world will be used to analyze his performance in hopes of better understanding where improvement(s) can be made. At just 29-years old, he can lay claim to 2 Major victories, a FedEx Cup Championship, PLAYERS Championship and a PGA TOUR Player of the Year Award. 4 out of 1000 swings avg 117 mph? X-Forged UT (#3- 21)- DG X700 As far as a Trackman goes.I've used it once. Or Fox Hollow in Baltimore? Absolutely awesome numbers though. Finally the bunker shot, this is where I feel Vokey really stand out and help my game. Carry Distance 302.9 Web27K views, 94 likes, 1 loves, 33 comments, 13 shares, Facebook Watch Videos from TrackMan: Congratulations to Justin Thomas, winning the CJ Cup! The Justin Thomas Foundation positively impacts children in need, junior golf, and military families with the intent of helping all achieve their full potential. As you can see, 45% have a club speed between 91 and 100 mph. f[yZ3 /=KCYOSg~VN@ [email protected]@U$ Q\8H`/ 9Hj: .1xq we never play for money. Your email address will not be published. I wouldn't take a trackman stat to the bank. I must say to the trap draw crowd, Justin Thomas isn't hitting trap draws while winning tournaments on the PGA Tour. He doesn't have the luxury of I, and many amateur golfers I play with on a regular basis, have the ability to hit the ball a long way. Shaft: Aldila NV, Irons: Cobra Amp Forged (4-PW) The first chart, with the club speed distribution, is that only for hcp 14-15 golfers? He is traditional in what he wants the wedge to look like. There he became one of the storied programs most decorated athletes being named Phil Mickelson Freshman of the Year, Jack Nicklaus Player of the Year, the Haskins Award Winner as the most outstanding player in collegiate and amateur golf, and capped his collegiate career by helping the Crimson Tide win their first National Championship in 2013. Not sure how you measure it down to the exact yard on an average driving range. Thanks this will help my golf game so much now. Shafts: Project X 125 6.5, Wedges: Titleist Vokey Design SM9 (46-10F @46.5, 52-08F @51.5, 56-10S @55.5), Titleist Vokey Design WedgeWorks Proto (60.5 T) I played Monday and hit my 1st 3 drives over 300 and in the fairway. Full details on the new TSR2 and TSR3 here! I can say that Trackman is second to none, and its always my first recommendation to others. I'm 6'3, in pretty good shape and played baseball my entire life. Simmer down, all. I was advised to switched to the 8 bounce as my impact is shallower than when I was previously fitted for my SM8s. While golf has given Justin a career he thoroughly enjoys, he knows the life lessons golf can provide. the TrackMan numbers below. Well, they say that If you practice more and more youll get better and better. Whats the proportion of shots wide of the mark by say 80 feet or more (or some width for which there is data) 2. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] And for those golfers looking to make more substantial improvements to their game, the TrackMan Combine provides a roadmap for the improvement journey and accurate, immediate feedback at all checkpoints / stops along the way. Am I as good as tour pro? F rom the comfort of your sofa or if youre lucky, alongside the ropes each major championship gives you a chance to see the biggest hitters in the world unsheathe their drivers and swing away. As the previous poster said Im 43 so wont be Bubba Watson anytime soon. How about heading out to Wedgefield in Georgetown, SC? Book a Session for only R500 to get your Swing Analysis. That's my opinion at least. If it's a longer hole, I'll play the driver. It's good for some laughs. [quote name='govols' timestamp='1364403614' post='6707409'] Dear friend, do anyone here user Taylormade RSI 1 Irons. I figured that out years ago based on hole distance and yardage to the flag after my tee shot. Course length, driver optimization, and course strategy are three key components to improving the performance of the AMA. Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. Another added complication when it comes to comparing the distances that the pros hit their wedges is the differing lofts each of them often carries for seemingly the same club. I take most info in many sections of this board with a grain of salt. It doesn't take a genius to figure that one out. Even my 4 iron ball speed max is 137 and Im getting 235 yards. The strategy implemented to create 10 additional yards of carry could be from lack of knowledge regarding how far each club goes. Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Black 6 X, 3-wood: TaylorMade Stealth 2 Plus (15 degrees @ 14) People that dwell on the fact that other people like to know their distances are funny. Overall I cant fault these wedges for an elite player as we are aware of the slight differences of feel at strike, flight and contact with the ground. WebSee how The Honda Classic Justin Thomas Trackman numbers look https://blog.trackmangolf.com/justin-thomas-trackman-numbers/ Titleist fitting last summer at my home course. Jordan Spieth WITB 2021 (May Charles Schwab Challenge), Jordan Spieth WITB: 2020 Farmers Insurance Open, Jordan Spieth winning WITB: 2022 RBC Heritage, WITB Time Machine: Jordan Spieths 2015 John Deere Classic winning WITB. Or when hazards are present, it may be even wiser to aim for the opposite edge of the green. Hang Time 5.8 Most of the guys I play/practice with are +2 to 5 handicaps. Brooks Koepka, winner of the US Open 2017 and 2018. Can crush it further by trap drawing it really stepping on it. Now that you guys have more and more data from the combine tests are you going to adjust the hcap chart. That's what I think. Total Distance Efficiency 2.484. Unlock the POWER Muscles in Your Golf Swing! [b]XHP 3-Deep (13)- 7.3X @ 43.5 That's what I think. <>stream [/quote] Thankfully also the SM9s dont seem to be ripping the cover off your ball, but looking at the Trackman numbers the backspin was high which you'd expect from the milled grooves. The average green size at Torrey Pines South is 6,000 square feet. Launch- 11.28, 9.71 low, 12.87 high I've seen plenty of tour pros hit balls & played with many good golfers. I need to know few things before buying. This analysis seems to be for elite athletes. Once you except your limitations, you can get out and enjoy the game we LOVE instead of loathing it. I also shot 86. Ha, okay. Smash Factor 1.475 This way the material is removed from the face and not spread out which means the grooves are sharper and weight isn't dispersed. The respective games the AMA and professional golfers play today are two entirely separate entities and should be treated as such. [/quote] Once AMA understands the likely outcomes for various shots, then he can most effectively implement course strategy for the benefit of improving his golf performance. I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. I grabbed the 46 degree to see if I could finally be that 3 wedge Vokey golfer, it was so good I asked for an entire iron set of Vokeys. So just to confirm what we are indeed up against we took a detailed look at just how far the top pros are hitting their clubs. I then picked up the lob wedge, historically as a two wedge player I need high versatility with this club as it is 6 degrees more lofted than my 52. You dont need to be depressed your swing speed is high enough to play very good golf. Your previous content has been restored. I am a 35 year old AMA at a 15. Don't doubt the ability of some people to produce similar numbers to the pros. Display as a link instead, Web2/27/2012 Justin Rose COMBINE TEST 1 | TrackMan www.trackman.dk TEST INFO Date:2/27/2012 Name:Justin Rose DOB:7/30/1980 Hcp:+5 Mode:Outdoor Location:Lake Nona Temp:78 F Wind:0-5mph Notes: TOTAL SCORE Driver Statistics (avg.) Im a 9 handicap wanting to get into the low single digits. APPLY NOW: Cleveland Frontline Elite Putters! I think some of you think too highly of yourselves & don't give tour players enough credit. I would have guessed #1 because of the "low spin" mantra, even though the launch is a touch low. The AMA has an average club speed of 93.4 mph and an average total distance of 214 yards. Bilan, I think you should rub one out before you get to first tee box. [/quote] Apex Height 112' 11" They were measured with GPS. 5 0 obj Cobra Radspeed 5W RDX Blue, Mizuno Pro Fli Hi 4i Tour AD DI As you can guess my improvement has now become dependent on driver efficiency and distance. I play off 8 at a championship course 7200 yards in the UK. The 12 felt good but the 8 slid through the turf and cushioned the ball off the face. DShawn Johnson Shafts: True Temper Project X PXi, Driver: TaylorMade Stealth 2 Plus (9 degrees @ 8) Trackman is obviously simply a tool for fitting & in no way plays any part on your actual game. [/quote] It has to do with my ability. The ball shoots from the face and you lose the control of the ball. Just ask Corey Pavin, Mark Wilson, Mike Weir, Fred Funk. Mike Austins Secret Release Move to Multiply Your Clubhead Speed. With the AMA averaging 30 yards less than his potential, there is a lot of room for improvement. timestamp='1364355784' post='6704107'] This site is owned and operated by Add That Little Extra Limited, a private limited company whose registered office is in London, UK. My average club separation is about 15 yards. Your ball speed is a little low which could indicate an off-center strike. xV#+D7xEouj|_\ctk--[ne5a|N}x^. Desired launch angle, spin rates change based on driver speed. I think the difference is practice, practice and more practice. Your email address will not be published. Is here any benefit ideas about beginners level women, what you say? The following graph shows the distribution of AMA Driver club speeds. It has to do with my ability. I actually feel I get more out irons than I do the woods. Please have a look at the TrackMan locator at this link; https://mytrackman.com/public/locator, Kind regards Niklas Bergdahl Support Manager. I know I hit the ball a long way though. [/quote] When looking at how the AMA performs, lets start with the drive. Of course touring pros are way better than everyone at all facets of the gamethat's why they're out making millions while a bunch of us have idiotic debates over the Internet. I've always gone with clubs based off of feel and ball flight, not what the numbers say. Club Speed 113 mph Ball Speed 166 mph Attack Angle -1 deg Launch Angle 12 deg Spin Rate 2298 rpm If a 50% greens in regulation (GIR) stat was desired for the AMA, then the approach shot would need to be approximately 140 yards. I don't measure my driver distance. My average distance was 235-245. The materials are superb and generate fantastic feedback on the strike through the head, shafts, grip and into your hands. Unless you're using the ball you play with every round, in the different conditions you play in, the numbers on the Trackman are null and void. Shaft: Fujikura Ventus Blue 6 X, 3-wood: Titleist TSR3 (15 degrees @ 14.25) it would be great to see this information on a broadcast on a couple of hole locations - combined with protracer. The trend right now with wedge play for all manufacturers is lowering the ball flight on the full shots. [quote name='GooseHook' timestamp='1364385234' post='6705065'] Heat treatment This treatment is now applied to the impact areas of the face to increase durability. I'd really like to see Tiger's path and face numbers too among others especially seeing how far left he aims at times. They hit 52 gap wedges a stock carry distance of between 126 and 135 yards and carry 56 sand wedges an average distance of 119 to 124 yards. also his AoD on the stinger. Including a personal best one under 35 for nine. A look at Brooks Koepkas yardage book below gives us a great insight into this and highlights how many types of shots pros can play with their irons. They think that a drives are always over 320, which they are not not even close. STEAL THESE FROM ME! *Normalized data was used to calculate approach shot distances. For those of you interested in how these averages compare to individual pros we have listed in the table below the average stock carry yardages for a selection of the top pros when it comes to how far they hit their driver. People like you that rant about longer amateurs is what makes for good laughs. I spent a year playing by myself getting lessons finding a swing and just focused on having fun. Executive Director, The First Tee of Louisville, Jennifer Helgeson There isnt anybody who wouldnt like to be able to hit the ball further. Vokey (TVD SM7 RAW 52 & SM6 RAW 58)- DG S400 Acting upon real data, not opinion, takes a giant step in that direction. While it would be easy to quietly continue his good deeds, the time is right to establish a foundation that can partner with others to positively impact countless philanthropic organizations and communities, and deliver even more good in the world. I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. [/quote] On average pros drive the ball a total of 296.6 yards (yds) according to official PGA Shotlink data. For example, I could average over 300 yards per round during the summer with a driver. A lot of guys come from athletic backgrounds too, and maybe took up the game at an older age. Jon has proven that he is able to compete at the But he picked up 25 yards for elevation, 25 for wind, and another 45 for extra roll. [/quote] I didnt start playing until i was 31 and it was over by 42 yet my handicap was 12. [color=#333333][size=3][background=rgb(229, 228, 226)]Launch Angle - 11*[/background][/size][/color] It's the short game. Either way I don't care. [/quote] I would say probably is bs. x]I]618nI9^R? My hunch its even bigger for AFA vs AMA? I'm BARELY 250 off the tee, but I will mop the floor with most from 125 in Top 100 PGA Tour Player Guide, What Wedges Do the Pros Use? The false fronts, forced carries, and deep protecting bunkers are too difficult for the AMA to deal with. You can use our TrackMan Locatortofind your local TrackMan certified and ask for a combine test. I almost just quit playing golf because when I started 4 years ago I was playing golf with two people most of the time that were in the 1% of AMAs . GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, Tuesday at 04:47 PM, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 20, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 13, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, February 6, GolfWRX_Spotted posted a topic in Tour and Pre-Release Equipment, January 31, Please put and questions or comments here, Please put any questions or comments here, Please put any questions of comments here. The goals of the Justin Thomas Foundation reflect the altruistic aspirations of the Thomas family. GHIN reported the average male handicap at 15.3 in 2003 and 14.3 in 2012. In other words the distance from where they hit the ball to the point of impact on the ground. Hitting long irons or hybrids into all of the par 4s does not set the AMA up for an enjoyable day on the golf course. [quote name='J.W.' I know I'm not a short hitter & I know there's a ton of bs on this board. What is evident is you obviously don't play with good amateur players. I cant say I noticed the lower ball flight but this is something that Titleist have worked on gradually for the last few generations. But then on the next hole when they come back down the hill with the wind behind them, they all go 340. TI Taylormade SIM Ti (15.4) Tensei CK Pro Blue 80X There is CG shift between lofts and there is a progressive hosel length in the wedges to balance out weight distribution.
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